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- From: Jeffrey Shulman <SHULMAN@RED.RUTGERS.EDU>
- Subject: Delphi Mac Digest V3 #9
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- Delphi Mac Digest Sunday, 8 February 1987 Volume 3 : Issue 9
-
- Today's Topics:
- RE: Scrapbook Problems
- RE: SFGetFile, Putfile improvements
- double-clicking (2 messages)
- RE: MUSIC PUBLISHING
- RE: 3.5 disks: what brand is best?
- RE: Mobile or Taliesin?
- FastPort SCSI adaptor
- LIFE 3D
- Perot buys into NeXt (3 messages)
- a labeling program (2 messages)
- Seybold Desktop Communications
- CricketDraw -> other (5 messages)
- COMPILER FOR OMNIS 3 PLUS (2 messages)
- Hi Ho SCSI Away....
- RE: ImageWriter II Print Problems
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: DDUNHAM
- Subject: RE: Scrapbook Problems
- Date: 31-JAN 23:43 Network Digests
-
- > From: FALK%NORUNIT.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
- > Subject: Scrapbook Problems
-
- The Scrapbook looks for its file on the "default" volume, which is the
- volume on which the application resides. If that's different than the
- volume with your system folder, it'll create a new Scrapbook File (in
- the application's folder). The solution is to use my DiskInfo desk
- accessory, choose the system volume, and click Make Default, before
- you open Scrapbook. (I think DiskInfo is available through this net.)
- (It's definitely available on Delphi.)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: DDUNHAM
- Subject: RE: SFGetFile, Putfile improvements
- Date: 31-JAN 23:43 Network Digests
-
- > Reply-to: DAVEG%SLACVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
- > Subject: Re: SFGetFile, Putfile improvements
-
- Dave, no such luck. Command-. doesn't cancel.
-
- > From: HENRY%OZ.AI.MIT.EDU@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU
- > Subject: User interface suggestion for SFGetFile
-
- HFS volumes do have a root node (dirID 2, for you techies).
-
- If SF were a pop-up Finder, things could get mighty confusing when you ran a
- desk accessory (like Acta) that uses Standard File, from within Finder.
-
- I suspect the real reason SF is so limited is that it was designed for 128K
- Macs.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: DDUNHAM
- Subject: double-clicking
- Date: 31-JAN 23:44 Bugs & Features
-
- Ric,
- I'm moving my answer to your suggestion that Acta select spaces
- after a word when you double-click out here for others to see/comment
- on (whew!).
- I think Word is 100% wrong when it includes the trailing space.
- For me, the standard editing paradigm is to double-click a word, then
- retype it. If the space is selected, this paradigm is no longer
- automatic. You'd have to pay attention and, if the word is followed
- by punctuation, do nothing, but if it's not, retype the space (or
- tabs, as in an old version of QUED). On the other hand, to delete a
- word is almost always two backspaces, since words are at the beginning
- of a sentence or quotation less often than before punctuation.
- TextEdit does go a bit overboard with selecting punctuation.
- Alas, I think if you adopt the simple means of telling TE that
- punctuation isn't part of a word, punctuation may sometimes fall
- outside the margins (as do breaking hyphens in miniWRITER -- I ignored
- it because it'll print correctly).
- I like what WriteNow does. Double-clicking follows the Mac
- guidelines (as burned into ROM) and selects only the word. But if you
- push the [Clear] key, the space will be deleted as well. And I
- believe it does implement "intelligent cut & paste."
- I've thought about putting that sort of thing into Acta, but have
- questioned whether it'll be worth the size.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: PEABO
- Subject: RE: double-clicking (Re: Msg 16969)
- Date: 1-FEB-16:20: Bugs & Features
-
- MacDraw uses triple-clicks for something obscure with text. MS Word uses
- option-gutter-click to select the entire document, and something similar to
- select paragraphs. I find that I have trouble with LightspeedC selecting the
- entire line when I am just fumbling around trying to get the word selected. No
- big deal, but perhaps just an illustration that nifty's that work for some
- people don't necessarily work for everyone. I think a three button mouse would
- drive me nuts.
-
- peter
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: NWOLF
- Subject: RE: MUSIC PUBLISHING (Re: Msg 16916)
- Date: 1-FEB-00:38: Creative Pursuits
-
- You will find many files etc., cor musical applications on a BBS called
- MacMusic. the number is (503)646-2095. MacMusic runs at 300/1200/2400 It will
- cost $25 for annual membership, but it's worth it. There are more music type
- files, patches, libraries, there than anywhere else. Sysop if John Connoly.
- He'll be happy to render advice, etc. You don't need to pay to use the message
- section of the b oard - just uploads and downloads.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MOUSEKETEER
- Subject: RE: 3.5 disks: what brand is best?
- Date: 1-FEB-02:10: Network Digests
-
- To: B5U@PSUVM.BITNET
- Subject: 3.5 disks: what brand is best?
-
- The Berkeley Mac User Group is doing the only private study I know of on
- floppy failure rates. While their study is far from complete, a report in
- the latest BMUG NL indicates that Nashua and Fuji are showing the least
- number of reported failures per 100. Some, such as Memorex are listed at
- four times as many failures as those.
-
- Not all disks are the same, but a lot are. Sony/Apple/3M appear to have all
- come from the same Japanese plant, and are all pretty reliable (if one is bad,
- you would usually know it on initialization). I would expect the Kodak disks
- are comparable, since I've heard Kodak is only marketing disks produced by
- Fuji (much as they do with videotape). Some appear lousy altogether, such as
- the Memorex listed above...I've had one box, and would never use another.
-
- DS vs. SS disks. I've heard it both ways...SS are fine for DS use, SS are
- unsafe for extended DS use, etc. I'd suggest you find a good mail-order
- source for DS disks and stick with those...no fun to find out that ONE
- SS disk you used for a term paper wasn't quite up to DS action. Precision
- Data Products (1-800-258-0028) sells Sony DS at $18.90 per box in six box
- quantities. Or you could call up CSS (1-800-343-7535) and get them at $15.60
- in case quantities, sell them to others at $19 and have twice as much
- to go McDonald's with. Or order bulk packs at $1.35 per disk, DS, take out
- an ad in MacWorld.....grin.
-
- Alf
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MOUSEKETEER
- Subject: RE: Mobile or Taliesin?
- Date: 1-FEB-02:10: Network Digests
-
- To: scott@apple.UUCP (scott douglass)
- Subject: Re: Mobile or Taliesin?
-
- Dear Scott,
-
- Thanks for the info re: Mobile & Taliesin. And don't worry about those
- people who objected to upper Wisconsin being relocated into New England.
- I can assure you that in the dead of winter they both look the same.
-
- However, I felt you might be interested to know that according to Online
- Standards for Telecommunicating Italian Accents (OSTIA), your tag line should
- be typed out as "Laugh'a while you can'a, monkey boy!"
-
- Alf Qwerty
- Cont. Editor, Mouseketeer Newsletter
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: OPPENHEIM
- Subject: FastPort SCSI adaptor
- Date: 1-FEB-02:13: Hardware & Peripherals
-
- I installed a FastPort SCSI adaptor in a 512E (Dr.Dobb's upgrade) this
- week and there are a few caveats for anyone who is contemplating this
- option. It was not difficult to install and functions exactly as the
- SCSI port on a Plus, but the manual is inadequate. First, for safety
- reasons the HV circuit should not be discharged. It is unnecessary and
- dangerous. MT suggests wearing safety goggles, but they fail to make
- it clear (i.e. they don't mention) that the reason is that poking a
- screwdriver around the picture tube while discharging the HV circuit
- could cause the tube to implode sending splinters of glass everywhere.
- A photo shows someone discharging the tube with one hand on the
- screwdriver, and the other too close to the chassis. If the alligator
- clip popped off at the wrong moment -- ouch. (Alligator clips tend to
- do that sort of thing, especially around lethal voltages). The rule is
- keep one hand well away from the circuit to avoid becoming a circuit.
- The board with the NCR chip, etc. on it did not fit where indicated.
- There are two screws securing the chassis to the front bezel that get
- in the way, and it has to be forced. A C- in engin- eering, MT. The
- most confusing part, for many, would be the address of the interface
- in Mac memory. The FastPort seems to have originally been part of an
- internal drive installation -- the manual describes that use, not the
- external port -- where the address of the port must be different from
- the one already in the plus. There are two jumpers of the board, pin
- blocks with moveable headers. The manual, including a 3-page insert
- for "... Installing the FastPort assembly" makes no mention of this.
- As shipped the jumpers were set for a Mac +. If you install the
- FastPort and it won't work, check the pin blocks to ake sure the pin
- blocks to make sure they are set as follows: (viewing from the edge of
- the circuit board, looking onto the pins; X=pin, I= jumper)
-
- X X I X X
-
- I X X
-
- (for 512E, etc. w/o Apple port)
-
- X X
- I X X I X X
-
- (for Mac plus)
-
- I'm still waiting for their tech support to call back so I can suggest they
- amend their manuals -- and ship the port properly configured. Mine wasn't.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: RSTICKLE
- Subject: LIFE 3D
- Date: 1-FEB-14:23: Mousing Around
-
- I know that Carter Bays 3D versions of Life were mentioned somewhere
- on the board after Scientific American came out. The question is can
- or has anyone gotten the Mac programs which were mentioned and will
- they be uploading them? The concept sounds interesting and when I get
- the time I want to send him the $3 for his doc's, the aticle mentioned
- that the program was done on a Mac, so if someone has contact with him
- perhaps we could upload the programs. --Rick--
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MACINTOUCH
- Subject: Perot buys into NeXt
- Date: 1-FEB-17:32: Business Mac
-
- A report in the Boston Sunday Globe today says that H. Ross Perot, of EDS
- and GM fame, is buying $20 million worth of NeXt stock. I guess he finds
- colorful Steve Jobs more to his liking than the GM Board ...
-
- Ric Ford
-
- "MacInTouch" newsletter
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: NWOLF
- Subject: RE: Perot buys into NeXt (Re: Msg 16985)
- Date: 2-FEB-03:02: Business Mac
-
- I understand that Steve Jobs contacted Perot when Perot was still with GM and
- Apple was still a fledgling co. looking for a market. Guess Perot figgers it's
- beter late than never....
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MACINTOUCH
- Subject: RE: Perot buys into NeXt (Re: Msg 17002)
- Date: 2-FEB-08:48: Business Mac
-
- Um, I don't think Perot was with GM when Apple was a "fledgling" company,
- unless you consider pre-Sculley days all fledgling!
-
- Ric
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: CRISTAELLIS
- Subject: a labeling program
- Date: 1-FEB-20:40: Mousing Around
-
- Someone who is a longer mac owner than I suggested a package that
- allows you to label disks--MacLabel maybe? I tried to check it out at
- a compuer store locally and got no info and blank stares. Is there
- such a program? Is it just as simple to do with another piece of
- software...?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MOUSEKETEER
- Subject: RE: a labeling program (Re: Msg 16988)
- Date: 2-FEB-01:10: Mousing Around
-
- There is a package published by Williams & Macias called
- myDiskLabeler that comes with some labels and the software. It is pretty
- much limited to doing labels for disks.
-
- An alternate, more flexible choice in software would be to get Silicon
- Press by silicon Beach software, and buy labels from another source. A
- place called Data Wiz at 21115 Devonshire Blvd.,
- Chatsworth, CA 91311 sells blank labels for disks in rolls of
- 500 for $16.95. Check a recent MacWorld for more info on them.
-
- In the interest of completeness, there is also MacLabeler from Ideaform, Inc.
-
- Except for Silicon Press, most stores don't stock, locally anyway, the
- disk labeller programs, since they have a limited audience.
-
- Alf
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: BMUG
- Subject: Seybold Desktop Communications
- Date: 3-FEB-05:24: Business Mac
-
- I spent a few hours at the Seybold Desktop Communications conference, and
- thought I might list a few impressions:
-
- The Mac was definitely a _very_ important part of the show. I didn't
- go around counting, but it looked like the number of Macs was about
- equal to the number of everything else combined. I saw a few HP
- Vectras and a wonderful Xerox workstation running the Ventura
- publishing system, but in my limited rounds I didn't see one true IBM.
-
- As you walked in the door, the whole middle aisle was full of
- third-party Appletalk solutions or extenders: Kinetics FastPath,
- Centram Tops, an optical route for Appletalk, 3COM's network, and
- much, much more. All labelled down the middle of the aisle from the
- ceiling with Apple's corporate Garamond font and style.
-
- Not a whole lot was new, but lots of Mac vendors showed up. Lonnie
- Abelbeck was showing VersaTerm, SuperMac was showing upgrades,
- DataFrames, and their spooling and backup software, Think was showing
- InBox (only), Quark was showing XPress (HEY! isn't that a DTPub
- program and not a DTCom one?), and Great Plains was showing their Mac
- accounting system. BSD was showing Stepping Out, an interesting hack
- that takes your Mac screen to any virtual size and then lets you see
- any part of the virtual screen. LoDown was there showing their WORM
- technologies and their hard disks.
-
- Both Helix and Omnis3 were on display. Odesta was showing a neat way
- to hook Helix up to a VAX/VMS system, and Blyth was showing how
- well-balanced AppleShare can be when lots of Macs are accessing
- records from the same database.
-
- Of course, AppleShare was a very important part of this show. Apple
- set up a HandsOn booth upstairs and allowed users to get comfy with it
- up there. As has been reported here before, the AppleShare package
- (for one fileserver running on one dedicated Mac and supporting up to
- twenty-five other Macs logged on at one time) goes for just under $800
- list. The package is fast, and operates very transparently. You run
- the administrator program on the dedicated Mac to set up network
- parameters and define workgroups and make distribution simpler. Then
- to get the network up and running, you run the file server program on
- the dedicated Mac.
-
- The Macs that are using the file server never need to run a special program.
- They use the Finder and a new "Access Privileges" desk accessory to maneuver
- items on the file server, and all folders and files available to that user on
- the network show up with the familiar file and folder icons. In the Finder,
- icons for folders change their appearance depending on whether you are allowed
- access to them and whether you own them. Also, when inside any folder, just to
- the left of the folder size info and just under the drag bar, you see a pencil
- with a line through it if your access to that folder is write-only. Password
- protection is provided at the folder level, and the dedicated file server works
- to enforce password protection and record and file locking even if one part of
- the network goes down.
-
- Apple was passing out an Appleshare compatibility guide. Few programs have
- difficulty with Appleshare, but some databases will need to be modified to use
- Apple's built-in record locking features instead of their own protection
- schemes. For instance, I understand that older versions of many databases will
- lock out a whole file to all but one user over Appleshare rather than letting
- multiple users operate on the same data.
-
- Attendance for the show was small, especially from 2 to 4 pm on
- Saturday, when I was there. It was held in the Hyatt/Embarcadero--the
- same location as the Seybold Desktop Publishing Conference some months
- ago. The people who showed up were the people making large buying
- decisions for corporate accounts, by and large, as you'd expect.
- Pinstripe suits and all that.
-
- Just wait until next time!
-
- Linda
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: DDUNHAM
- Subject: CricketDraw -> other
- Date: 4-FEB-04:40: Bugs & Features
-
- Is it possible to paste Postscript pictures from Cricket into other
- applications?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MOUSEKETEER
- Subject: RE: CricketDraw -> other (Re: Msg 17066)
- Date: 4-FEB-21:48: Bugs & Features
-
- David,
-
- Ya, you can move PS graphics from Cricket Draw into other applications, by
- either the Clipboard for things like MacWrite, or by saving the picture as a
- PICT file within C Draw and grabbing it that way from within the other
- application, i.e. PageMaker, RSG 3.0, Write Now, etc. Either way, both the
- QuickDraw and PostScript files are transferred.
-
- Alf
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: DDUNHAM
- Subject: RE: CricketDraw -> other (Re: Msg 17077)
- Date: 5-FEB-03:29: Bugs & Features
-
- I tried with Acta and WriteNow, and neither one printed it correctly.
- There seems to be some problem with the rectangles -- a teeny part of
- the bound text I was using printed; the rest of the area it was
- displayed on the screen was blank on the paper.
-
- How do you read PICT files with WriteNow?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MOUSEKETEER
- Subject: RE: CricketDraw -> other (Re: Msg 17094)
- Date: 5-FEB-19:53: Bugs & Features
-
- My mistake on reading PICT files from within WriteNow. According to
- Cricket Draw's manual, WriteNow allows you to paste PICT items from the
- Clipboard. Therefore, you can transfer images from Cricket Draw to
- WriteNow through the Clipboard or Scrapbook."
-
- My first Forum note here reported that there is what appears to be a bug
- with bound text. Even if you stay within Cricket Draw, only a small portion
- of the bound text will print.
-
- Alf
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: DDUNHAM
- Subject: RE: CricketDraw -> other (Re: Msg 17096)
- Date: 6-FEB-03:35: Bugs & Features
-
- I thought I remembered hearing about a bug. Thanks.
-
- Hmm, I pasted the same rotated text into two different Acta topics. In the
- first topic, its "bitmap" is visible. In the second topic, nothing but white.
- Cricket must be doing some _strange_ things! (I know it's not Acta's problem,
- because the same image pasted into the Scrapbook is also invisible. Finder's
- Show Clipboard shows the rotated text, however.)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: PETRO5
- Subject: COMPILER FOR OMNIS 3 PLUS
- Date: 4-FEB-07:40: Programming
-
- I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY COMPILER FOR THE OMNIS 3 PLUS. SOME OF THE
- SEQUENCES I MADE ARE VERY SLOW AND I'D LIKE TO IMPROVE THIS. THANKS
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MACINTOUCH
- Subject: RE: COMPILER FOR OMNIS 3 PLUS (Re: Msg 17067)
- Date: 4-FEB-08:42: Programming
-
- I think that Omnis 3 is already "compiled" and it's one of the fastest
- databases for the Mac. There are some other options, such as database
- routine libraries, if you're willing to write a Pascal or C program.
- The only other solution I can think of is to get some help from one of
- the real Omnis 3 gurus; there are a lot of little tricks that are done
- with Omnis 3, and one may help you.
-
- Ric Ford
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MOUSEKETEER
- Subject: Hi Ho SCSI Away....
- Date: 5-FEB-19:55: Hardware & Peripherals
-
- If you are considering buying a SCSI hard disk for your Mac, find a copy
- of the new Dec/Jan 87 issue of The Macintosh Journal. 50+ pages of
- comparisons, discussion, recommendations, etc. with some interesting
- conclusions:
-
- DataFrame 20 *faster* in some ways than the DataFrame XP20 at $200 more.
-
- Of 13 drives tested, the $589 Jasmine Direct Drive 20 ranked below only
- the Apple HD20 SC for excellent Design & Construction and ranked third
- in Speed.
-
- If you can't find this magazine locally, you can reach B & P Publishers
- at P.O. Box 1341, Provo, UT 84503 Ph: (801) 226-6888. Tell them "Alf"
- sent you and they'll sound confused.
-
- Alf
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: MOUSEKETEER
- Subject: RE: ImageWriter II Print Problems
- Date: 5-FEB-22:32: Network Digests
-
- To: Robert J. Thum <RTHUM@SIMTEL20.ARPA>
- Subject: ImageWriter II Print Problems
-
- Hi Robert,
-
- I agree with the IW II problems. I mean, it's a nice printer to
- look at, and is even in MOMA for styling, but as to function, it
- works like something you'd hook to a Commodore 64. Surely Apple can
- do better.
-
- Alf
-
- ------------------------------
-
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